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	<title>Comments on: MIPOTW: Conversation</title>
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		<title>By: eyejunkie</title>
		<link>http://www.eyejunkie.com/blog/2009/06/mipotw-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-617</link>
		<dc:creator>eyejunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dana --
Thanks! Jessica actually added a comment on my blog with the link and I&#039;ve read her post. It is indeed a remarkable story of friendship and its hard-fought gray areas. The power of the relationship she described is how much loyalty exists there despite the differences. (I loved her playground analogy!) 

In many ways I think the legalities are the more superficial side of the issue (although I know the rights and privileges they represent are core level ones). But, as you alluded, it&#039;s where faith and friendship intersect that the true wrestling (and possibility of change) occurs. For MOST of the &quot;conservative&quot; movement I see, the breakdown occurs with the friendship step. So often, they can&#039;t get past the LGBT label to see or know a person and their situation. Once the friendship hurdle is crossed, it&#039;s a whole new ballgame. When your beliefs have to play out in the lives of people you like and care about, you take more care in getting it right. 

My whole thought process on the issue started because I saw a glimpse of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lesbiandad.net&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Polly&lt;/a&gt; and her family. It touched me in the common areas of mothers (and Babas) beyond lesbian or straight. I found myself wanting her to be able to be legally married. I want her to have what she wants, to be able to make that choice. So, I started examining my beliefs more carefully on the issue to see how they really matched up with that.

I&#039;m rambling, as I&#039;m prone. Thank you for continuing the discussion. It is a delight and important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dana &#8211;<br />
Thanks! Jessica actually added a comment on my blog with the link and I&#8217;ve read her post. It is indeed a remarkable story of friendship and its hard-fought gray areas. The power of the relationship she described is how much loyalty exists there despite the differences. (I loved her playground analogy!) </p>
<p>In many ways I think the legalities are the more superficial side of the issue (although I know the rights and privileges they represent are core level ones). But, as you alluded, it&#8217;s where faith and friendship intersect that the true wrestling (and possibility of change) occurs. For MOST of the &#8220;conservative&#8221; movement I see, the breakdown occurs with the friendship step. So often, they can&#8217;t get past the LGBT label to see or know a person and their situation. Once the friendship hurdle is crossed, it&#8217;s a whole new ballgame. When your beliefs have to play out in the lives of people you like and care about, you take more care in getting it right. </p>
<p>My whole thought process on the issue started because I saw a glimpse of <a href="http://www.lesbiandad.net" rel="nofollow">Polly</a> and her family. It touched me in the common areas of mothers (and Babas) beyond lesbian or straight. I found myself wanting her to be able to be legally married. I want her to have what she wants, to be able to make that choice. So, I started examining my beliefs more carefully on the issue to see how they really matched up with that.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m rambling, as I&#8217;m prone. Thank you for continuing the discussion. It is a delight and important.</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.eyejunkie.com/blog/2009/06/mipotw-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-616</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 14:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Haley,

I wanted to make sure you saw &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.me.com/mksouthwell/May_the_Beauty/Blog/Entries/2009/5/31_blogging_for_glbt_families.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt; from Blogging for LGBT Families Day. (I&#039;ve written my own post about it &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mombian.com/2009/06/10/an-unlikely-friendship/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.) The author is a lesbian and a Christian, and talks about a friend of hers who nevertheless voted Yes on Prop 8. It reminds me a lot of your post and how these matters of politics, belief, and friendship are very often more gray than black and white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Haley,</p>
<p>I wanted to make sure you saw <a href="http://web.me.com/mksouthwell/May_the_Beauty/Blog/Entries/2009/5/31_blogging_for_glbt_families.html" rel="nofollow">this post</a> from Blogging for LGBT Families Day. (I&#8217;ve written my own post about it <a href="http://www.mombian.com/2009/06/10/an-unlikely-friendship/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.) The author is a lesbian and a Christian, and talks about a friend of hers who nevertheless voted Yes on Prop 8. It reminds me a lot of your post and how these matters of politics, belief, and friendship are very often more gray than black and white.</p>
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		<title>By: eyejunkie</title>
		<link>http://www.eyejunkie.com/blog/2009/06/mipotw-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-608</link>
		<dc:creator>eyejunkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 03:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking forward to further discussions, Dana!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking forward to further discussions, Dana!</p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
		<link>http://www.eyejunkie.com/blog/2009/06/mipotw-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-607</link>
		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 02:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Haley! Glad you liked the quote. I appreciate your expansion of it. Well put.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Haley! Glad you liked the quote. I appreciate your expansion of it. Well put.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.eyejunkie.com/blog/2009/06/mipotw-conversation/comment-page-1/#comment-606</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 16:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said.</p>
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